Overclocking the 12900k is pointless and dangerous! Heat and Voltage testing...

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Stalkholm
Stalkholm

You were asking in another video what we wanted to see on the channel... well, I quite enjoyed this, actually! You know what could be cool? Overclocking mid-range hardware, since that's what a lot of us are using. See how far you can push a 5600G or something, that could be cool!

6 uur geleden
Tom Kazansky
Tom Kazansky

6900xt benchmarks please

13 uur geleden
JoshAM
JoshAM

Can you make a video on how to put the 12900 in single core and to 5.2gh

Dag geleden
TheOld PCGamer77
TheOld PCGamer77

Just use the Asus A.I auto overclock on some of their new motherboards. A one click option that OC's each individual core with adaptive voltage. Watched the Asus video with their OC guy and it looks pretty damn good. Manual OC seems so annoying and pointless these days.

Dag geleden
Andrei Nicolae
Andrei Nicolae

Made a lot of factual mistakes in this video. Sorry but this is not great content.

2 dagen geleden
Zeek M
Zeek M

If you're promoting intel or nVidia I get rid of you. When you stick a graphics card in a motherboard of a different brand, I get rid of you.

2 dagen geleden
David Boggs
David Boggs

*How to undervolt on the asus BIOS* For the z690 boards, go to the overclocking tab. Scroll way down to "Cpu core/cache voltage" Change it to adaptive, NOT offset. Then change it to a minus symbol. go down to the cpu and set it to 0.070 and hit enter. All 12700ks should be able to do that so far. Brings temps down allot. that is -70mv btw. It'll add a bunch of zero's when you hit enter, don't worry about it. The new voltage will be shown during all core load, not single core boosts which still hit higher.

2 dagen geleden
DarkCG Gaming
DarkCG Gaming

Use the correct mounting kit. This video is pointless.

4 dagen geleden
G1 Gaming
G1 Gaming

J intel xtu does apply your stable overclock at startup automatically you dont even need to open the program itself (Theres a xtu service running on the backround that loads your stable overclock on windows startup) i dialed in 5.2 ghz all p cores and 4 ghz all ecores on 12900k on xtu with -065 mv offset voltage thats all i change set it and forget it i didnt even bother changing anything on bios other than turning on xmp profile. Thats how easy overclock nowadays

5 dagen geleden
goldenretrogames
goldenretrogames

I have the Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master and am noticing a huge discrepancy when configuring voltages in XTU vs in the BIOS. Setting the voltage offset is a perfect example. Changing nothing else in XTU, except the Core Voltage Offset to -0.050V results in a Vcore of 1.243V when running Cinebench R23. Doing the exact same change in the BIOS results in a 1.305V or higher. I'm opening a ticket with Gigabyte, to see if they can explain the difference. I've also noticed that even the lowest setting for Load Line Calibration causes massive spikes in voltage.

6 dagen geleden
Aleksandar be together not the same
Aleksandar be together not the same

intel become heating garbage 😂

6 dagen geleden
n/a n/a
n/a n/a

AMD shill

6 dagen geleden
Miguelkxn Rivera
Miguelkxn Rivera

i call it software prefferences. marketing. its a 240 watt cpu....

7 dagen geleden
Vlad'o'rama Geek Tech
Vlad'o'rama Geek Tech

Same about AMD, i scratched my head crazy with my 5950X until I just had it on Auto, except the "XMP". I had a hard time even get it stable at 4.5ghz now it boosts to 5Ghz.

7 dagen geleden
Somethingrandumb
Somethingrandumb

And with battlefield 2042 a i9 -9785655628387KFXQZ will bottleneck a geforce 4 gpu

9 dagen geleden
Manuel Salgado
Manuel Salgado

Hi jay. I always watch your videos man very informative. I have the 12900k and the Corsair icueh60i cooler. I want to exhaust it from the top of my NZXT case. It only has a single 120 fan and radiator so I was wondering your thoughts. I also want to enable the AI optimized feature. Will this cooler be good enough for that setup with no major overclocking? Thanks man.

9 dagen geleden
Alex Gavril
Alex Gavril

Is 12700k overclocking pointless as well? If no, can you please recommend the best air and aio coolers for 12700 non k? ( hope no overkill like z73 required for this cpu)

10 dagen geleden
Theje
Theje

The last CPU I OC'd was a Core 2 Duo E4300 from 1.8 to 3.0 GHz. Everything else has been kind of meh and felt like it's not worth it.

10 dagen geleden
zer00rdie
zer00rdie

You're Gooey Jay

10 dagen geleden
slobodan vukasin
slobodan vukasin

usa are satanists🤢🤮

11 dagen geleden
C.
C.

Meanwhile, I am at 5.3Ghz all cores. 5.5Ghz with e-cores disabled.

11 dagen geleden
DrJackJeckyl
DrJackJeckyl

I missed the first part... pretty upset about it :(

12 dagen geleden
djuansay jones
djuansay jones

Hey! Great Video!!! I have a quick question sir. How long did Intel say they would stay on this platform? And as AMD Said how long they would be on the next platform? I have a 5900x now. But really want something I could put a new processor in a few years from now. Thank for your help

12 dagen geleden
Phoenix
Phoenix

Just like 9900k.. can only be overclocked like extra 200-300 mhz

12 dagen geleden
Rizky Hadi Felani
Rizky Hadi Felani

blenchmark is actually a good short for blender benchmark lmao

13 dagen geleden
Sunny Schramm
Sunny Schramm

not if you know what you do

14 dagen geleden
Irnwkr28
Irnwkr28

What is the best ddr4 ram for i9-12900k?

15 dagen geleden
Stavros Mavrides
Stavros Mavrides

An OCed 3090 bottleneck benchtest, with an OCed 12900K vs other CPUs is a must now.

15 dagen geleden
Seth Barker
Seth Barker

I’m happy to see the E-cores can achieve beyond 4ghz! This new architecture feels like what Sandy Bridge felt like just around a decade ago. There are even still decent budget builds I’ve seen here and there using i5-2500k’s & i7-2600k’s just because of how far ahead of their time those chips were (usually paired with an RX 570 or 1050Ti/1060 6gb nowadays) Then again, AMD is gonna bring the heat with Zen3D(if that’s what they’re calling it?) as well as Zen4. Man what a time to be alive, if only the chip shortage wasn’t a constant issue.

15 dagen geleden
Waldel Martell
Waldel Martell

I'm excited about the i5 handling the highest end graphics car almost as well as the beefier i7 and i9. It allows more budget build with big gpus

11 dagen geleden
Aither
Aither

"IFIXIIIIIT!!!" (remembered when saw Jay´s face)

15 dagen geleden
Dazed:3
Dazed:3

what are the tyres in the back for

15 dagen geleden
ben russ
ben russ

Never underestimate the power of percussive maintenance

16 dagen geleden
Rafa RS
Rafa RS

Is hard to see grown ups wasting their time like this. Is like when we where kids and added a little "aerodynamic" piece to our bike thinking that it was going to be faster....

16 dagen geleden
moshiko ssaass
moshiko ssaass

the nzxt is trash btw, for 2100$ they give me ryzen 5 3400g and 6600xt gpu which his original price is around 140$ for the cpu hahahahaha what a scam site. i can get 3060TI with this stupid pricing for around 700-800$ and the other components of the pc wouldnt cost that much, i could build better pc manually elesewhere and it could cost me around 1700$ but with ryzen 5000 series etc. and not with this 3000 bullshit.

17 dagen geleden
Nelly Nelson
Nelly Nelson

Can you test watercooling on the 12900k want see temp on a custom loop?

17 dagen geleden
Belesarius321
Belesarius321

But... Gigabyte told me that Alder Lake gets up to 8 ghz! :( /sarcasm off

17 dagen geleden
cgfreeandeasy
cgfreeandeasy

Intel has, since Ryzen launched, his CPU´s Clocked way more on edge. Since Skylake and Kabylake, there was intels effiziency at a high level and better die quality (minimized fail and leakage), so that since then been maximization performance in the foreground. Many of Intels performance comes from this and not from some better implemented coding vs Ryzen - as it was befor Ryzen. So, it is like in the autoindustrie, befor, for example, Mercedes integrated AMG as a factory model (BMW also with M-Tech). Now. with M-Tech and AMG you can have from factory models, that do not need a tuning for every-day max performance. Yes, they are all expencive. What costs this I9-12900K? And how long will it take, that we can buy an Bugatti Veron/Chiron-like CPU/system? This "AllInOne"-System (without Trunkspace!), that do fit in future all that in one in this every-day-System, what befor only in the "makeable-examples" (Supercars and Prototypes) realized? Ok, Chiron is also a "makeable-example"... for very much money. No chance, that this would be reality for every-day systems.

17 dagen geleden
pentexnyx
pentexnyx

5:01 in IT you very often start countin from Zero ;)

17 dagen geleden
Aizawa
Aizawa

still no per core voltage control on Intel?

17 dagen geleden
Philippa Eilhart
Philippa Eilhart

I never liked to OC, I've also gotten great performance by overbuying the cooler for my CPU. I'm currently on an 8700 i7, with an NH U14S. I don't think it ever reached 70.

17 dagen geleden
Yoshimatsu414
Yoshimatsu414

I like these OC software Intel and AMD have made for their CPUs.

18 dagen geleden
Meh
Meh

Upgrading from 10 to 11 shows reduced performance compared to a clean 11 install from my experience. Not much, but still a shame for most.

18 dagen geleden
Jan Vlček
Jan Vlček

Remember you can be phantom throttling.

18 dagen geleden
Ymrilov
Ymrilov

e core i have up to 4.4Ggz and ring 4600mgz, p core 5.4 to all (1.38v)

18 dagen geleden
Johnny Tangstad
Johnny Tangstad

They just took some low energy cores and GLUED THEM together with some performance cores.

18 dagen geleden
SiqFix
SiqFix

I will stick to my Intel i7 9700K and Intel i9 10850K builds for a while. These CPU's are going to start getting ridiculous power draws like the RTX cards.

18 dagen geleden
Joel Doxtator
Joel Doxtator

Overclocking has long since died outside of extreme cooling. Back when there was little difference between server chips and consumer chips, you could get tons more out of a chip because they were basically targeting the same TDP. Companies are not stupid and saw all the extra free performance that they were giving users. So instead of releasing the CPU's at their intended TDP's and clock speeds, they added their own overclocking system to sell that performance to the end user instead of giving it away. The base frequency of 3.2Ghz is the real frequency of the 12900K, if it was to be a server class chip or an older chip before all this stock overclocking nonsense. So, it's not a bad overclocker, intel is just doing all the overclocking possible for you in advance. Why do you think motherboards have gotten so expensive? They are basically A.I. overclocking platforms.

19 dagen geleden
Tim Green
Tim Green

I just upgraded from an i9-9900k (overclocked to 4.8Ghz) to the 12900k with this board (assus maximus hero) and I let AI overclock and couln't be happier, night and day compared to before - I do have a custom water cooled system so temps are 65 under load on CPU and 55 on my water cooled 3090 (Asus strix OC), FPS went from 100s to almost 200s with this CPU.. I am impressed, AI is much better at this on this CPU 54/51 Ghz (light load/heavy load)... Now I just need another 32gb of Dominator RAM that is not in stock anymore... :-)

19 dagen geleden
Tim Green
Tim Green

PS again - this CPU at idle (2% load) runs cooler at around 32c now compared to 44c on the i9-9900k

19 dagen geleden
Tim Green
Tim Green

PS - Tested with COD warzone.

19 dagen geleden
Andrew Reynolds
Andrew Reynolds

can i oc my 9900k and beat that 12900k score?

19 dagen geleden
Chubbysumo
Chubbysumo

my personal thought would be to drop the clocks on the Ecores, and then use that available wattage on the Pcores. the CPU package as a whole seems to be very thermally limited when the ecores are getting hammers, so honestly, disabling them seems like it would be the way to go for maximum overclocks on the pcores.

19 dagen geleden
Lefty Nugget
Lefty Nugget

Oh bro, there's an annoying fuzzing sound in the mix of this video, check that out hahaha

19 dagen geleden
Richard sutton
Richard sutton

The tech is there if intel will push actually be aggressive and try to reclaim some of the market regardless 12 gen looks like the new gaming choice for now at least until AMD drops its next tick/tock either way we win in prices once the supply chain debacle is over.

19 dagen geleden
Piter De Flames
Piter De Flames

overclocking is pointless.. on a K cpu. Ok, intel.

19 dagen geleden
Moto Nugget
Moto Nugget

Damn, Intel just landed a SOLID right hook practically ripping AMDs jaw off with this launch lmao.

19 dagen geleden
MNS
MNS

this thing uses more power than my 6800 XT, imagine that,,,

20 dagen geleden
AL D
AL D

NZXT makes motherboards come on J. Too many cooks spoil the broth but, in Jay's case, too much information makes me make **it up. 1:40

20 dagen geleden
Michael Nager
Michael Nager

Yeah, the one problem is Jay, that you got sent a cherry picked Golden Sample from Intel (as did all the other reviewers) so all of your efforts in this video are a total waste of time and not at all representative of what a pleb, who doesn't get his shit for free, is going to experience.

20 dagen geleden
midicronica
midicronica

You would think in this day and age motherboards would be smart enough to figure out the most efficient settings and highest clock rate possible on the chip without having to play the guessing game.

20 dagen geleden
Ty Leyden
Ty Leyden

NZXT makes motherboards?

20 dagen geleden
sudoertor
sudoertor

They start at core zero as computer register 1 as zero. To make it human readable you need to manually add a 1 to the value.

20 dagen geleden
First Last
First Last

Luckily i got 2 so i can try to burn mine out and still have an extra to replace it with 🤣 sucks to be me

20 dagen geleden
Motoryzen
Motoryzen

I'll add " don't do what Linus did and just PLOW FORWARD although he received what should have been an OBVIOUS enough message of " ok..dude..you're about to nuke (ESSENTIAL) stuff. Are you sure you want to do this?"

20 dagen geleden
KnightMare Media
KnightMare Media

Getting similar scores with 5950x using dark hero .. so happy for competition in the cpu space

20 dagen geleden
bluefrisky
bluefrisky

Yeah except your single core scores will be about 25% lower, timespy scores about 25% lower and gaming performance anywhere from 0-15% lower depending on the game

11 dagen geleden
Dennis Jassmann
Dennis Jassmann

My i7 2600 gets 2900pts in Cinebench R23 running on all cores and that i9 just almost does that on a single core 😭😭

20 dagen geleden
Motoryzen
Motoryzen

hehe...You forget considering how crazy cpu tech has progressed these past 10 years....You should feel reasonably proud. That 9 to 10 ish year old cpu is still pulling its weight well then.

20 dagen geleden
Ludak021
Ludak021

Ok I am ignorant, ~5GHz has been maximum stable 24/7 clock for most users since Haswell. Period.

20 dagen geleden
怪啊啊
怪啊啊

How to choose between the nzxt z73 white(good looking) and corsair h170i elt lcd(better performance)? PS:use in a white pc to cool intel i9 12900k corsair 7000x case asus maximus z690 formula motherboard

21 dag geleden
Pro720HyperMaster720
Pro720HyperMaster720

Technically overclock is not pointless in fact brought good results, the AI optimization IS overclock. So technically manual overlock would be the pointless and in fact he is right that for the vast majority of people the quick optimization is the way to go although some of us as enthusiasts may do otherwise I consider good news how good is the AI optimization and that you can get a little more if you take the time. I would like to see how far in frequencies can go the efficient cores

21 dag geleden
Robert Loop
Robert Loop

So... The 12 series intel is just a binned crappy 11 series with a gimmick e-core(s) slapped in with it. Check. Power hungry POS. I hope the 10 series crowd doesnt "upgrade".

21 dag geleden
RationalPragmatist
RationalPragmatist

Dislikes are going away!

21 dag geleden
Jamal Taylor
Jamal Taylor

This i9 does not seem like it's the best candidate for the type of OC Jay wants to do. It's already cranked and juiced from the factory because that's what they need to do to get it to be appreciably faster. But considering that it's the CPU that makes the least amount of sense to the largest amount of people. The i5 or i7 seem like they have more room to play around with. What I'd love to see is the system power draw numbers while you're doing overclocks. We've seen that i9 will suck down all the juice you can give it stock, but seeing what it does when its being fed 1.4v should prove interesting.

21 dag geleden
bruggetje
bruggetje

I took a look at te NZXT custom build thing. I selected a 3090 with a 10900K for 3,4k euro, basically the most expansive items. (1euro is 1,1usd at the moment) and they guess it will run 72 fps on 1440p, LOL !

21 dag geleden
Azjeep
Azjeep

is gui new? lol

21 dag geleden
nate
nate

ill be overclocking mine for sure. i aint scared of the heat

21 dag geleden
tornadofreak12
tornadofreak12

To me, overclocking only ever makes since for the i5/r5 range since the high end stuff usually is boosted pretty high and the mid range usually has more leg room. Plus the higher end stuff pulls way more power and can generate way more heat for not enough gain to make up for it, as we all just saw in this video. I was running my 9600k at 5 ghz all day but as soon as I went to the 9900k I left it at the stock 4.7 and still manage to pull almost the same amount of power that my i5 did OC’d

21 dag geleden
Mac
Mac

This overclock will throw your ring ratio to stock speeds(32 for i9 36 for i7 etc..) so......... overclocking like this an i7(stock) will outperform an i9 in most gaming loads....

21 dag geleden
cx019
cx019

"Blenchmark" blooper and Phil does not die in the background? Is he well? Whats goint on?

21 dag geleden
Bill Krause
Bill Krause

Cores start at 0 in all OS because 0 is a number in computers. Bios and everything see it as 0 as well hardware wise but just label it differently. Linux top and htop will show core 0 as well. Not trying to troll just letting people know why that shows that way.

21 dag geleden
Chris Smith
Chris Smith

Blenchmark. It's a thing. 😉

21 dag geleden
1 1 7
1 1 7

“Stupid over the top water cooling loops” But Jay those stupid over the top water cooling loops were made for intel chips! ;)

21 dag geleden
GenRabbit
GenRabbit

Didn't the Thread ripper 2xxx series got gimped by MS.. Due to its design. No problem on Linux, lots on Windows? if so no wonders the Threadripper score here is low. Anyway these Cores run at 3Ghz, not 5.2

21 dag geleden
Revenant XD
Revenant XD

You said that XMP puts strain on the CPU memory controller but I thought the memory controller had been moved to the RAM module on DDR5? Does it still put strain on the CPU and could you explain why? Very informative video though as always Jay!

21 dag geleden
Giorgi Kikuashvili
Giorgi Kikuashvili

About P/E cores sucking under Win10. Has anyone tried to pin game process affinity to P cores and everything else to E cores? I'm gonna comment this everywhere until someone notices

21 dag geleden
PBBC Entertainment
PBBC Entertainment

I didn't listen to a damn thing you had to say because I was too busy staring at those tires.

21 dag geleden
Victor Hugh Go
Victor Hugh Go

I just noticed that Husky work table, I use one of those as a pc desk, outstanding. ..Awesome product. Got mine from Home Depot. Fits everything, gets your rig off of the floor, mine is 62x24. I bought a height adjustable Keyboard stand, the kind musicians use, for my keyboard and mouse because the table isn't wide enough for my needs, I could have just got a monitor stand to raise it up and put the keyboard under it but I liked this arrangement better. I put a rectangular piece of wood over top of it like a table, with a rubber shelf liner held on with Gorilla glue Duct tape. Look at all those computers you can fit on that Husky workbench. Great product. That i9-12900k, seems pointless to overclock a monster cpu such as it is, the power draw is higher than any current cpu on the market, you could probably fry an egg on it. In about 3 years from now it will probably be a hot commodity, everybody is going to want one. First there has to be some games to show it off and all the other components it needs to shine. I wonder if any game developers got the memo from Intel before the 'unveiling'?

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Silent Shadow
Silent Shadow

By the way when it comes to overclocking especially when trying to test a single core it's best to use Linux and not Windows. You can easily configure the system to not run tasks on specific cores also there should be far less background tasks going on in general making it even easier to isolate things. Jay mentioned trying 5.4 and having activity on other cores. This probably could have been avoided by using some kind of customized arch Linux install with a light weight desktop environment. I don't know if Jay will do this or not but it may be worth looking into in the future.

21 dag geleden
Nakota Myers
Nakota Myers

If you are buying an expensive cpu like this and an aio, you most likely aren't running linux on that system. You are using it to game.

21 dag geleden
methodinsane
methodinsane

What a great channel! Thanks.

21 dag geleden
EnderWiggin
EnderWiggin

AI Overclocking on my 9900k was a complete mess, but I'm sure there's a better way to get more performance from the 12th Gen stuff down the road.

21 dag geleden
Mas TeX
Mas TeX

my thoughts on overclocking: If you have the need to overclock a NEW Chip then you clearly bought the wrong chip... I Understand why Jay is testing the Limits so we don't have to. Using more power in the long run will mostly eat up the money you saved on the store price because of a higher power bill... This only works of course when you buy a low tier or mid tier part of course...

21 dag geleden
Erik Hendrickson
Erik Hendrickson

Intel/CPUZ sent out a MicroCode update to correct Alder Lake CPU-Z validation. GigaByte has found a way to bypass that validation and is now ACTIVELY LYING about the "overclocking potential" of their Aorus boards.

21 dag geleden
thatanimator
thatanimator

really? we dont understand why an array starts at 0?

22 dagen geleden
Tejasswat Rajindu
Tejasswat Rajindu

Hey jay, i see that you are seeing VID and not Vcore. I'm pretty sure you know Vcore is the voltage supplied while VID is the requested voltage

22 dagen geleden
Frank
Frank

2:44 What is the reason for custom water blocks having better cold plates? Wouldn't it make sense if AIOs were using those too? (Sorry I'm new to this) The only thing I could think of is that AIOs have shorter lifespan because the motor for the pump is integrated in the water block usually so if that fails you gotta buy a new one basically.

22 dagen geleden
Иван Ристић
Иван Ристић

Programmers are counting from 0 not from 1

22 dagen geleden
Gundam
Gundam

This review is biased AF! Go and watch the der8auer EN videos about the I9 12900k

22 dagen geleden
Neomis 01
Neomis 01

I’m in a place where 70 degrees is a really hot day and on,y a few times a year, usually around 55-60, my cpu loves it.

22 dagen geleden
Ganon
Ganon

blench mark is my favourite tool

22 dagen geleden
Kaboomnz
Kaboomnz

where to download Blenchmark Jay?

22 dagen geleden
Mason
Mason

2022: 16 P core CPU's for the low price of $1300.

22 dagen geleden
John-Paul Tolczyk
John-Paul Tolczyk

i did a overclock jayson on the bois and never ever doing that again so i won't be doing that again only just setting

22 dagen geleden
Aaron Lawrence
Aaron Lawrence

Something I am super curious about is virtualization on this platform, how does a hypervisor make a distinction between the P cores and E cores. Also I looked and it does support VT-x and VT-d thinking about how I am running Unraid on my desktop to split up my Windows and Linux workstations and wondering how an upgrade might affect me.

22 dagen geleden
Martin
Martin

Great question. I am also wondering the same re core distinction. Does anyone know where I can find more info ?

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Intel has some explaining to do...

16:23

Intel has some explaining to do...

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